More on embroynic stem cells

Unfortunately both sides have agendas on this debate. And I have REAL problems with the agendas on both sides.

For example, those who are on the embroynic stem cell side, NEVER mention what they are talking about. Therefore the vast majority of people do not realize that the debate is on embroynic only. Scientists are free do what they want with adult stem cells and blood cord stem cells. They are also free to experiment with the existing lines.

They also paint the other side with a broad brush. Obviously from the couple of posts I’ve written about it, I’m against embronyic stem cell research. I’m also firmly against abortion from a practical point, and I’m also against many fertility treatments — especially the ones that result in litters of premie babies — which by the way embroynic stem cells is a side effect off.

The practical part of being against abortion? What an absolute waste of money to have sex without conception and then pay for an abortion that you will have to regret forever. I’ve managed not to get pregnant on purpose for over 20 years. And I’ve often practiced 3 methods of birth control at once, and usually 2. But that’s off the topic. My objection to the fertility procedures are again practical. God has his plans, even if it doesn’t work out right, it’s because he doesn’t want it to happen. It’s also a great deal of money to spend when there are lots of children needing homes. (Yes, I’m hoping the Amazing Race couple will realize that they should take home some of those African children).

But all that is beside the point, back to the point.

They also paint the whole right to lifers with a broad brush. There are very few right to lifers who bomb clinics — in fact, I think we figured out it was just one, he just confessed and he’s been locked up for a while. That’s goofy too. Oh, there were a few other random fruitcases, but if it wasn’t anti-abortion, they’d find some other reason to blow things up or shoot someone.

On the other hand, I get fed up with the right to lifers when they start comparing embroynic stem cell research to Nazi Germany, there IS an internet rule of debate that states the minute that the agreement degrades to Nazi Germany, the person who brought it up loses. Wish we could pass that one across the board on public debates.

From a practical standpoint, the whole embroynic thing is an absolute waste of money until we’ve explored the adult stem cells. And of course, once you get to know me, you’ll realize that my main objective is always to spend money as wisely as possible, helping the most. That comes from working 13 years on a shoestring budget, with a low priority program.

I really DON’T believe that embroynic stem cell research is the answer to Type 1 Diabetes. It certainly isn’t the answer to Type 2. In fact, I truly believe we have only scratched the surface of both problems, and we aren’t even 10% into the answer no matter which direction you go.

We aren’t going to solve Type 1 until we understand the auto-immune process and we understand what destroyed the whole insulin process in the first place. The new islet implants (I don’t think they are true transplants, since nothing is removed) show promise, but the medical people are going to scratch their heads and wonder why it won’t work until we solve why it happened in the first place. We won’t have a cure into that happens.

I’m personally not that much into the whole Type 1 issues anyway, my problems lie more into a genetic cause (which I’ve done my part to stop, thank you very much), and the process got started way too long ago for any medical solutions to really help. I’m just buying all the time I can.

In other words, this is the last you’ll see about this issue posted on this blog unless it is in the comments.

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2 responses to “More on embroynic stem cells”

  1. Kelly Avatar
    Kelly

    [quote]The new islet implants (I don’t think they are true transplants, since nothing is removed) show promise…[/quote]
    A diabetics immune system has done the removal of the critical insulin producing cells already. Like having machinery pump a persons blood for them during a heart transplant, a diabetic uses insulin. So technically… a type 1 diabetic is awaiting their islet cell transplant from the day of their diagnosis. That’s how I’ve been thinking about the whole islet cell transplant process. The real issue is it’s currently a trade. Diabetes in exchange for the monitoring of a self-imposed deficient immune system.
    There has been alot of research already gone into means of re-training the immune system. Alot of it is parallel research (to type 1 diabetes) and not necessarily having to do with type 1 diabetes directly. I, however, feel that embryonic stem cell research could turn into the cure for just about anything you’d like it to. The research into the immune system is already occurring, it’s definately important but what is needed is more research of embryonic stem cells and the coralling of it’s latent ability to become -any- cell or cell structure needed.
    Regardless of which side you’re on when it comes to abortion, it will not deter the fact that no matter what- abortions will be performed. There is no stopping it. By making it illegal, the pro-lifers would essentially drive the practice into dark alleys and black market establishments. This would be a cause for many more deaths and debilitations then the practice brings with it now. Rusty hanger style abortions should be a thing of the past. Education and not litigation is really the only cure for this ailment in society.
    -K

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